“He made a killing!” Mythbuster

I recently ran into a woman who told me about a Groupon deal she bought from another photographer. It was $50 for a one-hour session and a CD of images. She tried to convince me I should offer one myself, claiming he “made a KILLING” from this deal, because he took in at least $20,000 selling 400 of these sessions. Wow! That sounds like a lot of easy cash.

But let’s take a look at this. Before we talk about the money, let’s look at the liability instantly incurred from this promotion. This photographer now has 400 one-hour sessions he has to provide. If he does 8 a day (and that would be grueling and only possible if he did them all at the same location) then it would take 50 days for him to finish fulfilling this obligation he’s now legally bound to. This particular photographer offered these at the client’s location of choice, so he’s not going to do 8 a day. He’s going to be tied to this unprofitable work for a long time.

Unprofitable? The woman I spoke with didn’t get it. I tried to explain costs, and she said, “oh he’s been in business for a long time. His camera was paid off years ago.” Really. He’s still using a camera he bought years ago? Hmm. I know mine have to be replaced every year or so.

So let’s look at the money numbers. Ignore that big $20,000 for a moment. It’s deceiving. Instead, look at the numbers for each session. $50 for each job becomes approximately $25 after Groupon takes their cut. For every session, the photographer also incurs mileage cost (average 30 mile trip at the federal rate of $.50/mile is $15.00) He incurs the cost of an archival-quality disk (bought in bulk, they are $3.50 each plus shipping) and the cost of packaging for that disk and shipping to the client…about $5.

So just taking into account the immediate costs of each session, that $25 has now been reduced to $1.50. You might think he made $1.50 per hour, but no…it’s worse than that, because every one-hour photo session requires much more than one hour of work.

For every hour I shoot, I spend at least 10 hours in post-production. Most do less, admittedly. I don’t batch my images, that’s why. I work on each one individually. But okay, let’s go with a more normal 5 hours of processing time. Add to that about 30 minutes getting each session booked, contracts delivered, signed, and  received. Add 1-2 hours driving time to and from the session, then another 30 minutes just to upload the images to the computer before post production begins, 30 minutes backing up images before working on them, another 30 minutes to burn a disk of all these very large files, and time packaging and shipping the disk. That’s 9-10 hours of work for every 1-hour session.  $1.50 divided by 9 hours = 16¢/hour. Wow! He made a KILLING! …if that’s what you call it when you make WAAAYY below minimum wage!

At $1.50 a session, so far that $20,000 has been knocked down to $600….for 400 sessions. Actually he hasn’t even made that. He’s lost money, because there are other costs that have to be applied to every session…a portion of all the other costs of just simply being in business. So he hasn’t made a killing; he’s taken a loss on this deal.

Plus add to that the opportunity costs of giving away files instead of selling them or selling prints, and spending time on 400 sessions at a loss that could be better spent on actual paying clients.

I can think of a few ways to turn this Groupon loss into a profit. Not much of one, but maybe slightly in the black:  shorter sessions, one location, no editing whatsoever…just shoot and burn. I know some people are using unpaid interns, but it can actually be illegal to have unpaid interns doing revenue-producing work. It’s not only unethical exploitation, but it also gets into the realm of unfair competition laws and labor code violations.

We all love bargains, and I can’t begrudge someone for taking advantage of one. I do! I also can’t begrudge a business for offering a Groupon deal. I may do so in the future. I can’t say Groupon isn’t worthwhile…as advertising. But no, photographers do not make a killing on Groupons.

June 7, 2010 - 7:35 am

David J. Cerven - Thanks Lauri, for correcting this misconception about cheap photography deals. Unfortunately, these type of deals are being offered all the time by desperate photographers who have not taken the time to form a proper plan of how to succeed. Becoming a successful professional photographer includes so much more than simply having a “good eye”. We will miss you on Wednesday at the St. Louis Photographers Showcase!

June 8, 2010 - 11:44 am

Corey Sewell - Most people don’t realize what all goes into a custom portrait session done by a professional photographer. Excellent post, Lauri!

June 8, 2010 - 6:17 pm

Paula - Well said …Bravo!
And as my mother always told me…you get what you pay for ;)

June 8, 2010 - 9:27 pm

Rachel - This is well said. It troubles me to hear about photographers (ESPECIALLY new ones) flocking to groupon and then all the clients who are even more likely to think that everyone should now provide photo shoots for $50 and include an 8×10 and a disc (???)….

I’m glad you remembered to point out that Groupon is keeping anywhere from 35%-50% of the fee.

June 22, 2010 - 6:30 am

Danielle - Fantastic post! Well said!! Its too bad that there are photographers who haven’t educated themselves on how to run a successful business. It de-values the industry as a whole. :-(

June 22, 2010 - 6:43 am

admin - Yep. Even worse than groupon deals teaching the public to to devalue our work, now there are tons of poorly informed photographers out there charging other photographers for workshops on how to run their businesses. LOL! Mostly because they aren’t making money actually running their businesses.

July 12, 2010 - 6:58 am

Amanda Zika - Great post! I actually remember seeing this on Groupon and thinking “What the….”. Why do people not get it? Sears charges more than $50 so what is that telling you. Well, you get what you pay for!

July 22, 2010 - 8:10 am

sandy - amen!!!

July 22, 2010 - 8:25 am

Jodie - Thanks, Lauri, I passed this on to other photogs… great post!

July 22, 2010 - 8:58 am

CarrieS - You so rock girl! Well written!

July 22, 2010 - 9:03 am

leah a. - Awesome post!!!

July 22, 2010 - 9:06 am

jayne - Wow! Well said!

July 22, 2010 - 10:09 am

Kia Gregory - Wow. Audrey Woulard posted this on her FB page…PREACH on sister and thanks for doing the math!

July 22, 2010 - 10:55 am

Katie R - Wow! This is GREAT, so glad it was broke down to help realize we do much much more than just that one hour shoot

July 22, 2010 - 12:15 pm

Heidi Lewis - THANK YOU…will be posting on my blog…

July 22, 2010 - 2:12 pm
July 22, 2010 - 2:32 pm

Lisa - Thanks for putting this all down in writing. Well said. I will share it with others for sure. I have spent the last day wondering if another photographer that just did this had lost her mind. ;-)

July 22, 2010 - 7:37 pm

Mel - GREAT POST!!!!

July 23, 2010 - 12:08 pm

Erica - Amazing post! I have many photographers who do $50 sessions with CD in my area and I just say to people who ask why I charge a lot more I respond “I have to pay the bills” Hope you don’t mind if I share this.

July 23, 2010 - 8:04 pm

admin - Thanks to all of you for taking the time to read this and share it with your viewers!

To “Joe” :cough:, who submitted a nasty, accusatory comment (with your IP address attached), I refuse to post your comment because I don’t want your rude vibe on my blog. But I will answer you.

No, it’s not an untrue assumption that this groupon (and many others the rest of us have seen around the country) are for on-location sessions. It was. It was stated that way in the terms of the deal.

You’re right that cheap CDs at Office Depot don’t cost $3.50 apiece. But archival disks that are fit for professional portraits do. Plus I use DVDs because my files are much larger than consumers get from their point n shoot cameras. However, the cost of the disk is completely immaterial to this discussion, because even if a photographer uses a 10 cent CD, that only puts $3.40 back into the photographer’s pocket for each session…spread out over the hours of work involved shooting and editing each one, it still amounts to only pennies per hour.

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